How to turn 50p and 60p into slow motion with Cinema Tools
Exactly what is says on the tin…you want overcrank quality slow motion with a camera that doesn’t have it but shoots 50p or 60p? Then this is how you do it with a Mac.
One word of warning. This is a one way process so if you want to keep the 50p/60p version make a backup!
See the results here: http://philipbloom.co.uk/2009/05/02/kauai-sunset-lumix-gh1-slow-motion/
Sheldon Charron
March 4, 2010 at 20:35Thanks for this!
David Arango
February 4, 2010 at 02:47any ideas on how to pull it from a windows machine?? No cinema tools here…
Daniel Villiger
January 12, 2010 at 06:47well thank you philip Bloom. You made my day.
Lots of greetings from switzerland.
Dan
Fabrice V
November 13, 2009 at 20:40hello !
you are so great Philip with yours tutorials and test, i’m in the process to buy a DSLR (7 or 5??) and you help me so many times !!
- about the codec : why encode the native H.264(7D or 5DMkII) in proRES422 or other codec ? the quality is cheaper after more and more encode, isn’t it ?
have you got a better color control after encode in proRES422 ??
- what do you think about the Juiced link for the sound ? i don’t find a test about that. you don’t work with ?
i work with an HVX200 and i want to change for a DSLR or a lighter stuff…
U can see my work here => http://www.vimeo.com/4330975
thanks for answer
Wayne
October 25, 2009 at 20:48Hi Philip. Amazing site!
Just to confirm, you would recommend transcode to ProRes, etc., THEN conform to 24/25p yes?
Cheers,
Wayne
pbloom
October 26, 2009 at 23:58yes do edit first then transcode finished edit.
Roger
October 22, 2009 at 09:13Thanks Phil, this is a fantasic way of doing some slowmo fast…
David Peter O'Brien
October 1, 2009 at 03:03Thanks so much for publishing this. What a wonderful, straightforward and useful demonstration. You just saved me a lot of time and aggravation. I really appreciate you putting this up on the internet so others can have the benefit of it!
David
yayonline
September 8, 2009 at 15:23Hi Philip, I hope we can see you in Spain soon. One cuestion. In the presentation at the London FCPUG about Canon 5D workflow, when you made and example of using cinematools for changing fps to a clip from 30 to 24, I see that the original clip was in ProRess. You know that original compresion on the 5D is H.264. So the question is this: if you wanna use cinematools as an option for convertion fps, at first you have to convert from H.264 to ProRess, and them make the fps down? When I try to make the fps convertion from original video of 5D (H.264-30fps) to 25 fps, the conform buttom is disabled in Cinematools. Another thing; if for using cinematools you have to make first a conversion of compressor (from h264 to ProRes) and after this, the fps conversion (from 30 to 25), I think that two times converting are too much times.
Congratulations for your teaching work. I hope you´ll be in the spanish Broadcast show in november giving us a masterclass.
(sorry for my english)
pbloom
September 8, 2009 at 22:53you should be able to conform native h264 files in cinema tools. I can
yayonline
September 9, 2009 at 12:41Sorry Philip, but all the native clips in H.264 that I open in cinema tools, after make analysis, the compressor field is empty, and the conform buttom is unable. This is my first time I use cinema tools, and I very lost in this program. one question, Is posible that I have to say to the program that the H.264 is ready for use in any place of settings, or something like this? the same buttom of preferences is also unable.
Gracias
Josh
July 15, 2009 at 15:23Thomas rather than rendering a sequence i would suggest you do a batch conversion via the media manager – create a bit with the clips you need to convert, then open up the media manager and do a batch conversion to ProRes.
Tom
June 25, 2009 at 18:16Phillip, I am have a devil of a time re-creating your easy video here on conforming a clip shot in 720/60p to slow motion 24p. Cinema Tools will open my file, but then I have no control over it. I cannot click “conform” or do anything to it? What am I doing wrong?
pbloom
June 25, 2009 at 22:06what codec are you trying to format? some wont work…
Ingve Steinskog Steinskog
June 11, 2009 at 10:37Hello! Great Tutorial !
I have a problem, when I have imported the film in Cinema Tools, I can`t press Confirm. I filmed in 60 fps and want to take it to 25fps
what do I need to do?
pbloom
June 11, 2009 at 10:53What format is 60p footage in?
Ingve Steinskog Steinskog
June 11, 2009 at 11:09720 60p
Kenton Lawrence
December 8, 2009 at 19:16Thank you Phyl for that tutorial, that was something I needed to know about recording in slow motion. However, after I record a demo in 720p 60p on the hvx200 at normal speed, when I reduced it in cinema tool to 30 frames the sound is warped like playing a 45 record at 33 speed. Is there any way this could be corrected so that it sound normal when the video is playing.
What kind of adjustment can be made to this to correct it.
Thank you for your tutorial looking forward to hearing form you.
Kenton
Philip Bloom » Blog Archive » Video DSLRs, the death of 35mm Adaptors?
May 25, 2009 at 04:49[...] a big problem. Stick it on a 25p timeline and it works a treat, or change the timebase in Apple’s Cinema Tools to 25p and you get nice slow motion! USA cameras get 24p in a 60i stream and 60fps in 720p mode. It also can record in 30 minute chunks, [...]
Phil
May 3, 2009 at 19:39Hi Philip, How is this easier than just right clicking on the clip in the timeline and setting the ’speed’ to 50% (without frame blending), this is non-destructive and to me creates the same result.
eric james wood
May 3, 2009 at 17:53philip,
i wrote up a small thing on the canon hf11 and 1080p over 60i and cinema tools/compressor. write up can be found here: http://www.helium14.tumblr.com
talks about the non-standard cadence and how to deal with it.
John Hyland
May 3, 2009 at 16:50This is great. I’m guessing this isn’t like round tripping; it might be best to duplicate the original clip before altering it.
pbloom
May 3, 2009 at 19:08yep…i didn’t mention that…once it is converting it is done and you can’t change it back! so make a duplicate!
Tyson Banks
May 3, 2009 at 14:35Thanks for another great tutorial, Philip. Looks like you’re having a great time in Hawaii.
I have a question about this technique too. Can it work with 50i, or 60i? I wanna say no, because since those are interlaced, wouldn’t they come out at 25p, 30p?
Anyways, thanks again, and enjoy the beach!
Tyson Banks
May 3, 2009 at 21:05gotta read through before I post…that should be “25p, 30p, normal speed.” Really, I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about
Thomas Stocker
May 3, 2009 at 12:24Was always looking for a tutorial like this and am still little bit confused…
How do you open the clip in Cinema Tool? Are exporting first a Quick Time file from fcp or are you taking a file from the row file?
Hope you understand my question.
Cheers
Nino
May 4, 2009 at 07:42Hi Thomas,
I think Philip took the raw file for the conversion. That’s the fastest and easiest way. But as has been mentioned before, make a duplicate of the clip before you reconform it in CinemaTools!
pbloom
May 4, 2009 at 09:01I import via log and transfer the file which converts it to pro res 422, then open up that clip in cinema tools…yes to duplicating clip or you lose the 50p
Thomas Stocker
May 4, 2009 at 13:24By log and transfer from my Sony EX3 cam it creates a XDCAM EX 720p50 (35 Mb/s VBR) compressed file which is not supported in cinema tools. I guess the best way to work around is to render the sequenz as a pro res 422 quick time and than import it again….
Or does somebody know a better way?
PS: (thanx Nino and Philip for replying to my other question)
Kiko Alves da SIlva
May 18, 2009 at 22:32I think you can try to import with mpeg streamclip with the DVCPROHD codec and that will work with cinema tools.