Now why on earth would I do that when I harp on about how much nicer 24p and 25p looks?
Well simply because this was filmed for a segment of my new “shooting video with the 7d” dvd that is coming out in a couple of weeks. It was about how to record sound separately using the Zoom H4n and a Sony wireless lav.
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It is simple the lovely Von Marie Donato reading a short text (used by Charlie Sheen in Platoon!) and me filming her from a number of different angles.
I used the 35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.2, 70-200mm f2.8 and the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 which was used for the pseudo “jib shot”
I left the zoom recorder running whilst I did all the different shots and used pluraleyes to sync it all up automatically.
First two shots were shot at 720p 60p and converted to 29.97 in Cinema Tools.
Below is the native 30p version on Vimeo and below that is the jES De-interlacer 24p transcoded version on Exposure Room. The 24p has some motion blur due to the method I used. I will change this to another version later.
Enjoy.
Girl with the flaxen hair: Canon 7d 30p (!) from Philip Bloom on Vimeo.
Girl with the flaxen hair: 7d 30p transcoded to 24p
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October 24, 2009 at 09:56[...] A little short shot using Canon 7d and shot in…30p!! Philip Bloom – PeopleRank: 1 – September 25, 2009 …Charlie Sheen in Platoon!) and me filming her from a number of different angles. I used the 35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.2, 70-200mm f2.8 and the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 which was used for the pseudo “jib shot” I left the zoom recorder running whilst I did all… + vote [...]
Ulisse
October 9, 2009 at 12:20Hello there,
I see that in 30p al is the same as in the 5D Mark II, but the jello effect occur in 24 25p is horrible.
Here the link for a short clip:
http://vimeo.com/6974549/
Ulisse
October 7, 2009 at 22:53I buy the 7D and also in low movements the stuttering in 24p 25p mode is very noisly, you can also see on a camera LCD.
Is this normal?? Or just my camera?
pbloom
October 9, 2009 at 22:59no not normal. can you send me a clip?
Michael
October 3, 2009 at 05:53How did you get that aspect ratio…did you just crop?
pbloom
October 3, 2009 at 11:25yes just a crop
Michael
October 4, 2009 at 05:48I hope this isn’t a dumb question but Is there any way to get that ratio without cropping the image? ….Thanks again for the website and all the info.
pbloom
October 6, 2009 at 17:00yes, anamorphic lenses
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Matt
September 27, 2009 at 17:39Philip,
Thanks for what you do here…just a couple of questions. Have you tried synching audio from the H4N with 24p footage from the 7D? Would there be any problems matching the audio and video up?
JJBad
October 10, 2009 at 15:49I am curious about this too. Anyone have experience with this?
Kevin
September 27, 2009 at 06:34Nice video…
Realy interested in a D7 instead of a HD video camera, but what about the roling shutter effect because of the Cmos sensor ?
Is it only noticable in extreme situations or also with normal pans and shootings ?
Found this picture on the net:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sorenragsdale/3192314056/
Thanks, Kevin.
pbloom
September 27, 2009 at 07:49it’s not a replacement video camera. Check out my rolling shutter comparison test at the bottom of the 5d vs 7d blog.
Kevin
September 27, 2009 at 12:18Thank you for the reply, i saw the video on your 5d vs 7d blog.
The rolling shutter is there.
probably the same story with all the (video)camera’s with cmos sensors today.
Nicolas Alonso
October 12, 2009 at 14:00Hi Phillip, great work. Many thanks for your time and knowledge.
We are here in Argentina, PAL land(not ntsc), and living still pretty much in the film era. We want to move to video and the VDSLRs like the 7D sound quite appealing to us. We do documentaries and info videos for now. Would you say is not a good move then to go for this cameras and syncing the sound, rather than EX1 or JVC HM700 or HPX300? Obviously the 7D is a lot cheaper and does PAL, but is it not good enough to go for that rather than conventional video cameras?
Again thanks for your time.
pbloom
October 12, 2009 at 14:55I do think the 7D is not a video camera replacement, rather something to enhance your work and use as a tool rather a direct replacement. I still think the EX1 is one of the best all round video cameras out there.
Nicolas Alonso
October 12, 2009 at 15:24Hi Phillip. Thanks. Would you min to tell us your opinion on the advantages of filming with EX1 or HM700 rather than the 7D and recording audio separately?
Again and as always, many thanks.
pbloom
October 12, 2009 at 16:56ex1 and HM700 are proper video cameras with proper sound inputs, don’t have the horrendous rolling shutter issues of 7D, don’t have time limits on clips and record in formats that are quickly and easily. transcodable
Nicolas Alonso
October 13, 2009 at 01:39Fair enough. Philip thanks for the impute and your great work. Very important for many people around.
Cheers.
pbloom
October 13, 2009 at 07:31Cheers Nicolas
Thomas
September 26, 2009 at 06:4524p version stutters a bit on the move. As a stills photographer moving into film making I find all this 24p/30p thing a bit like the Emperor’s new clothes, most of the time I can’t tell the difference except if there is panning, then 24p seems juddery. Thanks for sharing Philip.
pbloom
September 26, 2009 at 12:27yeah, please don’t judge the 24p version as what the 7d does 24p like. This is 30p converted to 24p. Native 24p as seen is Dublin’s People is way superior
jmtari
September 26, 2009 at 06:26Hi Philip, great work as usual.
Do you think you could tell us which filters you’re using for your work in general? Thanks
pbloom
September 26, 2009 at 12:27just the fader nd
kiko
September 26, 2009 at 06:167d 30p transcoded to 24p, the planes of the crane give small small jumps.
I prefer canon 30p 7d (¡)
pbloom
September 26, 2009 at 12:28but if i shot native 24p would have been much nicer.
Andrew Howe
September 25, 2009 at 20:54I prefer the 30p one too. I even avoided the temptation to post as @Fuhrer. I think its only because it looks less obviously processed. Doesn’t Vimeo change things to 24fps when it encodes though?
Myles
September 25, 2009 at 20:43Aha – Debussy – used to play that. Nice.
Myles
September 25, 2009 at 20:39Beautiful shots.
Gyula - FCPUG.HU
September 25, 2009 at 18:40very nice, actualy both versions
Magic Bullet really gives a nice feel to it.
Erik
September 25, 2009 at 18:31Someone needs to shoot a vid with two 7D’s in parallel, one at 24p and one at 30p, then upload both videos. That would be a true – and very interesting – comparison.
Maybe even skew the angles a bit so cross-eyed people could have an out-of-phase 3D experience. James Cameron are you listening?
pbloom
September 26, 2009 at 12:33anyone got two 7ds??
Matt Stapleton
September 25, 2009 at 18:21I actually like the 30P version better.
pbloom
September 25, 2009 at 18:23i think people are saying that to screw with Canon now a 24p camera is out from them! The 24p version is nowhere near as good as native 24p from the camera. it’s a workaround…
Jeremy Bernatchez
September 25, 2009 at 18:39I’m just glad this time there’s options! especially with the 50p and 60p for doing some nice slomo.
I really wish Nikon would come out with something that’s not just comparable in picture quality but controls and framerates. I want to be able to properly use my nikon accessories (flashes, & lenses)!
But alas it seems Canon might be the one better at bridging the gap between stills and video…
pbloom
September 26, 2009 at 12:33let’s hope Nikon respond properly with the “700dx”
Jeremy Bernatchez
September 28, 2009 at 22:45I’m crossing my fingers for sure!
Jeremy Bernatchez
September 25, 2009 at 18:00Very nice… thanks for doing a 24p trancoded version as well! Same process as what you showed with the 5D MK II?
Don’t know why but I just love the aesthetic of 24p more than 30p…